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~62.39 ref
Unique Mann Co. Supply Crate Key
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(Resuggest)Update: range from 10 ref -> 10-10.33, maybe a better range and support the proofs

GG TF2 Economy, GG Keys


Just a little ammendment on the key price, make it 10 ref flat will be better than 9.66-10

--All the proofs were bumped within this 20 hours--

Any feedback would be appreicated :)


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Sold for more than 10 ref: - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.22 ref - 10.22 ref - 10.22 ref - 10.22 ref - 10.22 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.33 ref - 10.55 ref - 10.66 ref - 10.66 ref - 11 ref - 11 ref


Buyers @ 10 ref:

Buyers @ more than 10 ref: - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.11 ref - 10.22 ref

ty :D

Better range than before. Upvote

    Prove that people dont sell for 9.66, or that its a quicksell. You need to eliminate it from the range.

      You clearly haven't tried to buy keys in the last days. They are even hard to buy at 10 ref, they're gone in seconds.

        Then it should be easy to find proof for it. Its not the job of the viewers to assume that 9.66 doesnt happen. Forgive me if I am wrong, but the point of a suggestion is for the suggester to find proof, not for the viewers to act based on their own knowledge. Otherwise, people could open up a suggestion with no proof at all, and say "You know that 9.66 doesnt happen." But thats not how it works. ^-^

          U have the "best" logic in the world. If 10 ref is insta sold, then how can 9.66 ref not insta sold. BTW i don't know how can a guy with 2 accepted suggestion say such thing

            i think the tons of instant solds for 10 ref listed have already proofed his statement, if you need more instant solds, then i suggest you to find them yourself

              I was going to say the exact same words. The suggester left a whole wall of insta sold at 10 ref, I'm not sure if you checked them.

              9.66 prices have to happen often if that were the case. Hyperion stop trying to manipulate.

                How am I manipulating? I support the range, but there should be SOME proof that 9.66 isnt happening!

                  It's happening, however it's useless to throw into the price suggestion if it's focused on 10-10.33

                    Fair enough. However, I still believe that somewhere in the suggestion he should show that there are no sellers at 9.66. That is all. ^-^

                      of course those quicksells will happen, but if every suggestion were bounded with those quicksellers, none of the suggestion will get accepted, and still, 10 ref is a quicksell price already, according to the proofs

                        I understand that. By 'no sellers' I meant that essentially there should be no non-quicksells remaining on outpost.

                        Since there are not, it can be included as proof that 9.66 should be eliminated from the range.

                          Hyperion is right, you're suppose to show that 9.66 isn't even being attempted anymore, which you are, but just indirectly. Both of you are right, it's just that Hyperion most likely doesn't understand what you're giving/telling him.

                          Hyperion, 10 refined is more then 9.66, correct? Let's say X is greater than(>) Y. If something quicksells at X and you're looking for quicksells at Y value, if quicksells at X value are supplied, doesn't that mean that both X and Y values are simultaneously quickselling?

                  Quite the contrary. 9.66 just doesn't happen. (I've seen 10 as the cheapest in the past 4 days) I sold 2 keys for 10.33 in 10 minutes today

              Good proof, upvote on my side!

                Well this was inevitable.

                  upvote for me !

                  organized and good proof

                    Can we go 11 ref by the end of the month too? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                    Upvote because very good proof.

                      up by 0.66 in 3 days...seems like next suggestions will be done to increase the price by 1 ref

                      by the way tf2 finance says 1 Key = 10.01 Refined, while estimates 9.67. i doesn't seem that 10.33 is quite here

                      This suggestion reflects current market state. UPVOTE

                        And what is said current market status?


                        Out of proportion?

                            Can you explain why it's "shit"?

                            Upboat. Good boy.

                              Terrific amount of proof. Here sir take an upvote

                                It is done. The keys are finally over 10 refined worth. Let's celebrate! #savetehkeyz

                                  I can only agree that it's hard to get keys for 10 refs.

                                    Sales at 10 ref are holding strong.

                                      Keys have grown price so much since they started out at 2 ref and I...I...DADDY IS SO PROUD OF YOU!! >.<

                                      Upvote ;-;

                                            You must not understand that a suggestion can have 0 votes, and still pass/fail.

                                            This is some high quality proof. Upheterozygote

                                              CHOO CHOO TO THE 11 REF TRAIN

                                              Well. Proof is good, upvote.

                                                It's finally happening, 10 ref keys

                                                  Hey man good proof! 😁 /\Upvote/\

                                                    A nightmare before christmas, 10 ref keys...

                                                      That pun xD

                                                      I'm gonna upvote it :D lots and lots of proof...maybe someday i'll try making my first suggestion :P

                                                          I believe you can actually get in trouble for useing ASCII Art.

                                                              Don't blame us,please. Blame the community.

                                                                You do realize this is why the community sells keys for more? You think people are going to sell at the solid price once the keys rise? Lol. This has been happening for months, ever since keys started rising. A constant cycle.

                                                                  You say that, but keys dropped down to 7.33 as recently as August, and stayed there for most of September. I still have no idea what started that, but it happened. So this site isn't just pushing the price up for the sake of it, it's reporting real sale prices. Can anyone enlighten me on what happened with the key crash? Doesn't make much sense.

                                                                    1 word. breadbox

                                                                      Seriously? The chance of getting a strange throwable weapon by crafting hats meant people panic-sold keys? It can't just be that can it?

                                                                        people needed ref/craft hats to make the breadbox. don't ask me why they wanted to do that but the initial decrease created a panic among people with only a few keys. those people kept undercutting the others while anybody with 20+ keys just stood by and watched for the most part. The panic sellers kept the price going down a bit after the breadbox crafting ended but once all of them were out of keys and those keys in the hands of people that don't really deal in ref much at all most days then the price started rising again creating a similar panic in the other direction for people to hop back on the key train.

                                                              sigh so it has come to this...

                                                              ohwell good proof upboat from me

                                                                Mann... I wished I cashed out later than earlier... another vote has been sent to the heavens.

                                                                And this time, I clicked all the links. Yay.

                                                                  rip keys


                                                                    Sigh* upvotes*

                                                                      Sigh *disliked*

                                                                      Well as far as I seen from proof it is ok but still I dont like this fast inflation of 1 reclaimed per week or 2. It is not much as long you keep on making fast profit trades and you work with keys and buds.

                                                                              Lots of good proof.


                                                                                  Forgetting the fact that ref will decrease in cents in order to secure the equalization of keys.

                                                                                    It won't decrease as long as people aren't selling for less. And considering the current refined market refined isn't going down any time soon.

                                                                                    forgetting the fact that they've hit 2.53 USD on the steam market this year. also they're still 2.49 in the ingame store and less in paypal trading

                                                                                        yes proof is good but why u upvoting ? stay at 10 ref plls..

                                                                                            good proof upvote, sooner it raises sooner it falls

                                                                                              I just sold 3 for 11 ref. Upboat.

                                                                                                  With the recent Halloween crates I get the feeling Valve wants to get rid of keys completely to stop this madness (and to get more money, of course).

                                                                                                  Still, upvoted.

                                                                                                    Gonna hate myself for supporting keys going beyond a savable measure, but the proof here looks solid. *ugh* Upvoting.

                                                                                                      Well I sold mine at 10ref, both keys. So upvote, they sold really quick on here.

                                                                                                        I'm upvoting because I see everyone else who tried to argue otherwise got shunned

                                                                                                          a scrupulous reason to upvote, however the only reason they are being shunned is because the comments are irrelevant like 'THe economy is dying' or 'Keys are ridiculous'

                                                                                                          So, yeah, as long as nothing irrelevant is posted, you should be fine <3

                                                                                                            You have a good point there. Also because of the "Expiration date/Breadbox" update, people were destroying most craft hats for those strange weapons, causing the keys to fall. After the end of the Breadbox crafting period, the keys rebounded back up. In addition, because TF2 has hit 100,000 concurret players(heard on Kritzkast) it makes sense that the demand for keys would increase, making it a hard-to-get commodity without paying on the Mann Co. Store.

                                                                                                              Well it's funny, I actually see people making sense from their irrelevance. Yeah of course the key is going to crash is people keep making it higher, ref is going to be worthless eventually. I don't see why everybody tries to hide that fact by downvoting a comment clearly not irrelevant to keys.. although at this point I'm either going to get a cleverpun or a large amount disliking. This is the internet, logic doesn't exist!

                                                                                                                Disliking because thou tells the truth.

                                                                                                                  The people on outpost are always seem to go above the normal price. Won't increasing the price just inspire them to go higher ;(. Upvote for good proof but I'm upset.

                                                                                                                    why don't this suggestion got accepted already?

                                                                                                                    this is using too much space of the top 5 suggestion

                                                                                                                        No it's not, and I'm tired of people making stupid assumptions like these. It's not wrong, it's common sense. Refined metal is infinite, 1000's of weapons drop everyday, people make more ref and buy keys with ref. In reality keys aren't gaining value, ref is losing it. This price was inevitable. There's nothing wrong with the economy.

                                                                                                                          True, it's not that the keys will crash, the refined metal is. Because you can easily craft them anyway, with weapon drops, compared to the keys, which require you to pay a bit of cash to afford them.

                                                                                                                              Theres everything wrong w/ the economy

                                                                                                                            I put keys at 9.88 refined and had 5 friend requests within minutes. Clearly Keys need to explode before they go back down upvote.

                                                                                                                              You Lied to me release the keys

                                                                                                                              but upvote anyways

                                                                                                                                  Why do people keep saying keys are "rising" and "inflating"?

                                                                                                                                  1. Keys will never rise above the value of $2.49 and can still be bought easily at $2.00 via PayPal. Key values would be more precisely measured if compared to real world currency, but since they aren't, this creates the illusion that their value is increasing as opposed to metal decreasing.

                                                                                                                                  2. Inflation, a very basic but surprisingly and horribly misused economic term in the TF2 community, implies that there are more of a certain item and thus, the value decreases. Relative to metal and earbuds, and even money, keys are most certainly not inflating.

                                                                                                                                  I also don't foresee a "crash" anytime in the near future. I'm no fan of OP's generalizations about the market, but the proof is thorough.

                                                                                                                                    I never looked at it that way. I guess that's true, considering ALL tf2 players recieve 10 weapons a week, making TONS of new metal. Therefore this guy is a genious ^^ Hooray for inteligence (being serious, this is in no way sarcastic, I really never saw it that way)

                                                                                                                                    So just imagine, millions of tf2 players, 10's of millions of weapons a week, pretty legit comment

                                                                                                                                    What would happen if keys rose too high (in metal value)? Would we need a substitute for metal as it is now becoming worthless? Im not saying its a bad thing that keys are going up (in metal that is, keys still have the same value they did when the were lower) because that means that the economy is growing along with a demand for keys. More metal is comming in, further devaluing metal as a currency because there is just so much of it. But what if the economy within TF2 grows too fast and keys become out of range for the new player who can only deal with metal? Any ideas? I would really hate to see the entry bar be set to high and limit the amount or discourage new traders who are comming in to the tf2 economy.

                                                                                                                                    Would it be possible that the keys rise high enough to crash? I dont see many peopel having the backpack room or metal reserves to buy keys at too high of a price?

                                                                                                                                    Now keep in mind Im not against the increase in metal value that the key is getting, that is a good thing. Im just throwing an idea at the wall and am looking for some input from others.

                                                                                                                                    by the way, good proofs, there is no way i could devote the time to compile that list!

                                                                                                                                      plenty of new traders and people that have no intention of trading simply buy keys from the mann-co store or steam market to get the things they want. the idea that someone could work their way toward becoming p2p without ever putting money into the game has always been somewhat ridiculous.

                                                                                                                                        im that one guy trying to get rich by trading :)

                                                                                                                                          it's a whole lot easier to "get rich" by trading if you bother to start out putting a bit of money into the system. I've sold over $2000 worth of keys/buds for paypal when I only put in about $300 total (when i had a lot of extra money and before f2ps even existed) and my bp is nearing the 5k mark without me spending anywhere near that. You'll spend a whole hell of a lot longer working up to your first bud than going from 1 bud to 10.

                                                                                                                                            Put 50 cents into the game because that was all i had on steam and I have traded up to an unusual and the games library I have now. It is kinda ridiculous but not impossible! But i agree with you, if you are out to make a profit you should put money into the game, I just did it because I was bored.

                                                                                                                                        Nothing we can do about it, the problem lies with valve, every update they have had since 2 years ago has made metal more and more useless. (Removing dirty hats so we dont have a reason to craft, updates which make people spam unbox so we use up keys only to get metal back...etc)

                                                                                                                                        The only Update which unintentionally helped with ref's dying value was te breadbox since it gave metal a purpose.

                                                                                                                                          I dont think keys will get that high, there is bound to be something that comes along to give metal a purpose like the breadboxes again right?

                                                                                                                                              You need proof to make a suggestion, his suggestion is nearly 2 days old, meaning people have been trading at his suggested price since 2 days ago doesnt matter what shows. We dont dictate the price we reflect the market which is why we are always slightly behind the actual price.

                                                                                                                                              Not everyone here uses the site to "manipulate" i know for one it's pretty much impossible to actually use this site to make a profit via suggestions. Many regulars who come here are veteran traders or they just enjoy the community, visit the forums and you'll see plenty of people asking and receiving help.

                                                                                                                                              Ive spent countless hours here simply because it's a nice pass time, ive helped plenty of users and helped many "noobs" to eventually have a more expensive backpack than myself. The only "advantage" ive seen so far are users who hate each other and they constantly update prices which lower their bp and ignore anything which would increase their bp.

                                                                                                                                            Its stupid people think by increasing the ref for keys you are some how making it worth more than 2.5 dollars when actially you are lowering the price of ref and thus lowering ever item you have in ur backpack thats under a key

                                                                                                                                              Good proof and all, but when you say "GG TF2 Economy, GG Keys --Inflation--" Why do make this price suggestion? Won't this just further contribute to the inflation and cause the keys to raise higher, therefore damaging the TF2 economy even more? I have heard the term "Rep-whoring" but I think thats a bit harsh.... Just a little confusion from a tf2 player/trader - please don't judge me. :D

                                                                                                                                                You need proof to make a suggestion, his suggestion is nearly 2 days old, meaning people have been trading at his suggested price since 2 days ago doesnt matter what shows.

                                                                                                                                                We dont dictate the price we reflect the market which is why we are always slightly behind the actual price.

                                                                                                                                                ;-; upvote

                                                                                                                                                  Whoa, prices of keys going up and up, well nothing beats good proof. Upvoted .

                                                                                                                                                    cool... finally a legit suggestion, UPVOTE! :D

                                                                                                                                                    keys sell for 10 ref like lightning :O

                                                                                                                                                        You have no understanding of an economy, do you?

                                                                                                                                                        We aren't voting because we want to sell for more.

                                                                                                                                                        We are voting because this has legitimate, well-thought out proof.

                                                                                                                                                        And you, for some reason, come blazing in here with words of pointlessness, thinking it would be 'fun' to attempt to insult us.

                                                                                                                                                            Go on, make a suggestion for keys without proof. I 'guarantee' it'll go somewhere.

                                                                                                                                                            And you are forgetting that the CS:GO economy is just over a year old.

                                                                                                                                                            TF2 is not gone either, and I can say you are one of these doomsday theorists that attempt to get everyone hyped up so you can 'boycott Valve' or this website, when in fact it's neither of our faults.

                                                                                                                                                                  You have no idea, so why do you believe them? You are blindingly following someone's word without knowing the full picture.

                                                                                                                                                                  You can also claim to 'know' the CS:GO economy, but you fail to realize both economies are synonymous. They follow the same rules. I'm also an avid part of the CS community myself.

                                                                                                                                                                  And in response to blindly following because people EVERYWHERE say it's crashing, I can say to you now, it isn't. If you took the time to learn and read about what an economy is and how it functions, you'll actually understand why Ref is falling, Keys are rising and why people 'claim' a market crash is occurring.

                                                                                                                                                                      Both economies work the same way. It's evident.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'll say what I always say to people who complain and grovel to Key and Ref suggestions.

                                                                                                                                                                      Ref is Free

                                                                                                                                                                      Keys are not

                                                                                                                                                                      There is more Ref than Keys

                                                                                                                                                                      Keys are in higher demand, Ref is not

                                                                                                                                                                      Therefore, Ref will go down. Keys have stayed the same price since they were released. (Ever heard of PayPal?)

                                                                                                                                                                      Pick. Up. A. Book.

                                                                                                                                                                        Picked up the book you told me to pick up and I now understand the TF2 economy 1. Don't follow in other peoples foot steps 2. It's not crashing 3. Thanks for telling me sorry about this I'm not very well at the TF2 Economy.....

                                                                                                                                                            Im not doing this for fun! Im just sharing my opinion. plus dont expect me having FUN!

                                                                                                                                                              Your opinion is complaining about the economy on a site which doesn't have anything to do with it besides offering a simple price guide system. Your CAPS lock idealistic views of telling us everything is failing is not going to get you anywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                I couldn't reply to your comment that is 1 below this, so I'm replying to you here. Commenting is not mean't to be fun, Commenting is mean't to help the suggestor, or to attempt to prove them wrong. Please don't comment stupid garbage like "you people are voting up because you have lots of keys and want more refined to get richer!" One, that's called flipping your profit, and it requires a very big risk to do it remotely correct. A currency suggestion can pass with a low amount of votes. Don't believe me? Here's an example:

                                                                                                                                                                I HAVE NO CHOICE...



                                                                                                                                                                        From my personal experience on trade servers, virtually no one asks to buy keys at over 10, with most looking for around 9.77 - .88. Also I would hope keys would stay at 10 for a while as now the relationship between keys and refined is metric (base 10). Makes it a lot easier to know instantly that .4 keys is 4 refined. Additionally, while refined is being added to the game on a weekly basis, keys inflating .33 / week is outrageous and artificially created by greedy key flipper whores trying to resell for profit. I think we need to put our foot down as a community and say enough is enough.

                                                                                                                                                                          the majority of people trying to buy keys on trade servers are looking to buy them cheaper and resell for profit. It's that simple.

                                                                                                                                                                            Some do to resell, yes. Some like myself buy at around 9.88 to keep as keys for future trades or unboxes. Either way, key flipping has been a strong contributor to the proof used for these upvotes.

                                                                                                                                                                              i haven't bought a key with ref in over a month. There are much better ways to convert metal to keys.

                                                                                                                                                                          i think its going crazy with some much ref for 1 Key :)

                                                                                                                                                                                omg its happening! 10 ref and beyond!!!!!1 Sorry for spam gays


                                                                                                                                                                                Sorry for trolling.. Upvote for good proof and more excellent proof, and I shall stfu.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Good Proof,

                                                                                                                                                                                  Upvote :>

                                                                                                                                                                                    Minor support, but I sold 2 at 10.33 in less than a day.


                                                                                                                                                                                    I had 3 trade offers for both in less than 12 hours.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Solid proof. I hate to watch keys skyrocket but upvote from me.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Plenty of proof, but buds are dropping and refined, very bad for the community

                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think this should even be a thing this economy has gone directly backwards, you are raising the price on Keys and lowering the price on Buds sooner or later I feel like the price is going to be so high buds are going to be absolutely worthless

                                                                                                                                                                                                  People don't seem to realise that there is an infinite amount of supply for keys, but a finite amount of supply for buds... That is if what you say will happen. Hopefully the community isn't that stupid...

                                                                                                                                                                                                Just a reminder that 2 tods for 1 key are still a thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                and since 2 tod = $1.98 and 1 key = $2.49, the tf2 econommy has an exploit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                or short of.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1 key sells for less around $2.13 on steam market to the seller. For many people there are taxes associated with buying items from the store (ie TOD really costs closer to $1.06 for quite a few people). That is where the buyers that pay 1 key for 2 tickets come from.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I left for a month and I come back to 10-10.33 ref? Is this just the continuous rise, or did something happen to push it further?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Halloween got everyone dumping metal for keys to unbox a special effect.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Nice proof, upvote from me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I honestly don't think keys will stop rising; but geez, I can't imagine the day that two rows of refined metal is needed to one key.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I didn't expect to see gas prices displayed on

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh wait, that's the rapidly fluctuating key. Hate it but proof is proof. Upvote.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  i saw this link, hope it helps in a way...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                  sold 95 keys @ 10.33 and bought 90 @ 10

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    eh the trade has been on for 7 months so the keys bought and sold are of different prices

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Some People just cant grasp that concept

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Even if keys drop, the process will repeat such as history

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          People are flipping to "make profit". I make at least 5 times their key banking profits in an hour.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            One unusual trade for me can make a several keys profit. They don't make a several keys profit in a /week/.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You forgot one very important key factor no pun intended. People will keep buying keys. If anyone is eager for keys to drop or maintain a steady price, then i'd suggest boycotting the very beast we've made what it is now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              agree, boycott key sales

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                yes u got a gud point

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sold 1 for 10.33 ref about half an hour ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can't imagine how much effort and time you put into this... the community needs people like you!


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Aww, just in the items.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Very solid proff, upvote m8

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dammit.... nice proof Upvote. :(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    good proof. upvoting this

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Someone is salty


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We are NOT godly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We are only a price guide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And are nothing more.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (Did you notice something there?)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also, we do not enforce trades. We're only like...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "Oh, hey! This item? Oh, this thing might go around (price here). Some might be selling it higher or lower... we don't know. Thanks for coming to! Remember! We don't force you to be like this. Sell that key for less, I don't care! Unless a lot of people are selling it for less.... In that case, I do care."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A teary-eyed upvote from me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love all the rage-dislikes you get on, I've never understood why that is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        the price of ref shifts downward in $. the price of keys is fairly stagnant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I sold keys for 10.22 ref, I cannot vote but for me it's YES!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Why can't you vote?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Update @ 8/11

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    #Road_to_10000_votez #Probably?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Looks beautiful, my premature congratulations on your inevitable yellow belt! #yellowbros

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I literally don't get the comments on key suggestions. Like, two people could literally say the same thing, and one would have a score of 9 while the other is down in the -20s. I don't even. Is funny to me. Just my 2 cents.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Upvote, I've seen people begging to buy one for 10.22 on some trading servers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            thumbs up for me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The cycle of key prices:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. A price suggestion raises key price and is accepted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. People on tf2outpost raise their prices in order to make a few scraps profit off of the new key price.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              3. People on see outpost trades with new, higher key prices.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              4. Repeat steps 1-3 infinitely!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Upvoting anyway cause I'm a hypocrite :]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a hypocrite too lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Wow, a suggestion which actually uses proof, and by proof I mean quite a lot, too, to actually BACK UP their price suggestion? o.o


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  great, solid proof, upvote!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    hmm i even saw bot buying for 10.55, srsly it is rising up like mad after bread box hype died :(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      it's almost impossible to even buy keys @ 10 ref xD

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i sold around 7-8 keys 10.66 ref each yeasterday :)


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i am wondering why hasent this been accepted yet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            #roadto10-wait. we're already here ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              A distinctive lack of downvote

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              An extraordinary abundance of proof

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                damn 4000 + Voting 250+ Talking Wow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just sold one for 10.33 ref in 5 minutes (I've got about 8 offers in a row within that five minutes).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  10-10.33 range is already outdated/irrelevant if the price is based on the actual market.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Better accept this already, we're already way behind in terms of price.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I know the proofs and all are good, but if keys reach a high amount of ref, not only it will be hard for new premium players to get to one, but it will destroy the economy. If keys will reach more than 15ref, TOD tickets will rise, like they're always half a key. I don't know why the prices of the keys are going up .33 every week, but I'm really ashamed of the people who do that to increase their backpack value ( I have seen some people refs ago do that). So, when the economy will be weakened, only then you will understand the mistakes that have been made.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Key prices are going up because keys are keeping the same value while Refined is constantly dropping in value.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Refined, (and everything tied to Refined in value) is getting cheaper and cheaper because lots of players are collecting lots of weapon drops and making lots of scrap, but very rarely does any metal get REMOVED from the economy. If you want Keys to cost less Metal, you'd need Metal to become more valuable, which requires something to use up the metal that's always being made.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "Combine three metal to make a random hat" isn't as good as it used to be, because there are a lot of different hats so the chances you get the one you want is very low. And that's the only thing that Refined is ever used for.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          4 months from now keys are the new buds mark my words warn me all you want and dislike my comment all you want but you know its gonna happen and that this economy is going to crumble

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That is never going to happen unless valve starts selling clean earbuds in the store for $2.50 each. There are far more keys than there are earbuds and they are easily obtainable.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              >open 4 days

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              >not accepted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Give this man his deserved medal god damn it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We're not making keys worth more, we're reflecting the increasing price of keys...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Are people suggesting price changes to keys just to facilitate the economy crash faster so we can get it over with?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Welp, looks like I won't be selling my TF2 Inv for keys to sell for CSGO items...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          To all those people complaining about key prices

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. 10-10.33 is only $2.24, that's less then mann co

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. "The economy is gonna crash" that's what they said when keys were rising to 7 ref

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. the only way the economy is gonna crash is if people stop trading

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes the key prices are getting higher but you need to deal with it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Good for you?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       - Buys keys for 10.33 - 11.00


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    sold for 11 ref

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    he wanted to buy 4 but I was only selling 1

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't think anyone will read this with the amount of comments but here goes!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My bot buys keys @ 9.33 and sells @ 9.55.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      sold 4 keys @ 9.55:



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      sold thru my main due to problems:





                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Do currency suggestions usually take this long to review, why is it taking so long?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't hurt me, admins, just asking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As sad as it makes me to see keys go this high... Upboat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Why hasn't it been accepted/denied yet? been 4 days...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bought one for 10 ref and one for 10.33.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  4 days ago, this was a downvote, but things changed since then

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bought 4 for 10.33


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      hey, heres my trade where i bought a key for 10.33 ref, it sold in about 7 minutes.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Inflation Everywhere. O.O

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm surprised this hasn't been accepted yet