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Unusual Burning Question The Eldritch Opening
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The single biggest trade I've ever made. 1600 Pure for this incredible 1 of 1 forever hat, going to a well deserved forever home, and receiving a long overdue price suggestion.


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198239575462?time=1673222400 - Before

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198239575462?time=1673568000 - After


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198009208968?time=1673568000


https://imgur.com/a/5xpQ95a



    skull

      I would like to leave this comment here for all who may read it in the future.


      This hat was purchased in memory of my beautiful and loving wife, who passed away from cancer September last year.

      Her and I originally had a long distance relationship where we would play TF2 and other games together.

      She was a pyro main, and a devotee of all things Lovecraftian.


      Since she decided to donate her body to science she has no grave; no tombstone. We will be planting a tree with soil mixed from her ashes this spring, but I wanted something closer. Something that I could always hold in the palm of my hand.


      I miss you my love, and hope you can see this from beyond the stars.

        rest in peace, good memory :'(

          damn... my condolences :(

            May she rest in peace 🙏

              Rest in peace :'(

                My condolences, Shiki. May she rest in peace.

                  I'm so sorry for your loss, Shiki. Losing someone that close and dear that you loved so dear really has to hurt... my condolences as well go to you.

                    What a gentleman you have my thoughts and wishes brother.

                      She will always be looking down on you man, may she rest in peace <3

                        Rest in peace, stay strong.

                          Seeing things like this is why I play TF2. May she rest in peace.

                          The buyer seems to deal in selling rare or 1/1 halloween hats, including Unusuals. I'd be inclined to leave this unupdated, given that analogous effects aren't representative of this price update and the relatively high potential that the buyer is just going to resell using this suggestion as leverage if passed.


                          Downvote.

                          Whatever story is behind this sell. This is an outlier… there is very little chance the next sell will be even close to this sale

                            There's precedent for accepting this kind of thing though, provided the owner doesn't resell

                            https://backpack.tf/suggestion/58107f21c440450158139a18

                              Interesting, lets see what mods do here.

                                I think there is a lot of supplementary evidence of intent to resell here, though. The buyer still has numerous rare Halloween items for sale and only took down the listings for the other Halloween unusuals once I commented pointing out that they supported the inference that he is trying to leverage this sale to resell this hat. The fact that he took those listings down suggests that he is aware of people suspicious of his intent to resell and is attempting to make that less obvious.


                                My downvote stands, and I would encourage price mods to look into this matter in detail to avoid facilitating what would amount to price manipulation.

                                  Using a suggestion to leverage anything for resale is silly when he can provide proof of him paying 1600 regardless, also 1600 is already an absurd amount to pay for this hat, i think he knows no one else is going to pay more. He seems pretty genuine about keeping this hat as a memoir for someone who passed away, seems a little too cynical to think hes doing all this to make profit lol

                                    1. Here's an example of price manipulation being used to leverage an item for resale https://backpack.tf/suggestion/588e9b1be33877348e7b8a71

                                    2. It is speculation unsupported by evidence to say that nobody else is going to pay more

                                    3. Of course somebody attempting to earnestly pass themselves off as not selling would seem genuine about keeping the hat; I have provided supplementary evidence of intent to resell. What you call cynicism, I call due diligence. If you are able to rebut these pieces of supplementary evidence beyond just saying that somebody seems trustworthy, I would be welcome to read it.

                                      BP price has always been quite arbitrary on very high tier items as its always subject to change based on sales, people have sold itmes before for heavily increased prices without suggestions ever being made to leverage from, from experience i can tell you that no one on this planet is going to pay more than 1600 keys for a hat like this. Your "evidence" of intent to resell is purely speculation as well.

                                        Your experience is based on nothing but speculation; is there a reason your opinion holds any more weight than just being mere speculation of one user? Just because items have sold before without manipulation doesn't mean it should happen in any instance. I think we are at a crossroads as to what "speculation" means if you think the presented evidence is speculative in any way.

                                          you're using him changing listings for other hats he never stated he had any sentimental value for before as evidence, to me you're grasping at straws to find a way to justify your logic that he wants to resell this hat to make profit, a hat which he has already paid far more than what itd normally go for in todays economy. Im not saying i have any hard evidence so i am speculating yes, but so are you, theres no evidence to absolutely confirm either side.

                                            There is absolute confirmation of the fact that this person clearly deals in selling Halloween unusuals and other rare Halloween items; this is more than enough motive to infer that this quantitatively abnormal sale is intended to be used to leverage into higher offers than the item normally would receive. The fact that many of those listings were removed right after I publicly displayed my suspicions is even more supplementary evidence of that intent.


                                            That is all absolutely confirmed fact, in stark contrast to speculation about what the hat would "normally go for in today's [sic] economy", your "experience", and the fact that he "seems pretty genuine".

                                              So people who deal with high tier halloweens never buy halloweens to keep? That's your logic here? Again you're nothing but cynical. Also you've only used your opinion to back up your claims, that's not evidence. Only actual "evidence" you can provide is him removing listings for other hats, which really changes nothing about this hat, using that as a point of reference to say he intends to leverage this to resell is exactly speculation.